<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/' xmlns:georss='http://www.georss.org/georss' xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5962287001770458912</id><updated>2012-02-06T17:30:39.817-06:00</updated><category term='ethics; ecology; environment; justice; slavery; philosophy'/><category term='Urban decay'/><category term='ideology'/><category term='maddening'/><category term='affordable housing'/><category term='ignorance'/><category term='economic externalities'/><title type='text'>John Champagne's musings on civilization, ethics, politics, economics, sustainability, etc</title><subtitle type='html'>Some articles I've written are here, along with some links &lt;br&gt;to articles I've posted elsewhere. Anything you see linked to &lt;br&gt;from here, you may comment on here if you wish.
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I have a proposal for a new paradigm--a change in our culture and our political and economic systems--&lt;br&gt;that would end grinding poverty and provide an efficient and fair method for &lt;br&gt;managing humans' environmental impacts.&lt;br&gt;
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If you see any flaw in the proposal, &lt;br&gt;please comment.</subtitle><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://john-champagne.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5962287001770458912/posts/default?max-results=100'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://john-champagne.blogspot.com/'/><link rel='hub' href='http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/'/><author><name>John Champagne</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12991470302088404570</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-p4UUpQds6yM/Tk7HsK3hTxI/AAAAAAAAAH8/NI0KOTVoYys/s220/public_domain_astronomy_Full_Earth_NA.jpg'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>10</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>100</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5962287001770458912.post-3661755318940078238</id><published>2012-02-02T13:22:00.001-06:00</published><updated>2012-02-02T13:45:43.064-06:00</updated><title type='text'>Fast for answers</title><content type='html'>From: John Champagne&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Subject: Starting two day fast&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The goal generally is to help draw attention to what I believe to be a profoundly important proposal. More specifically it is an occasion to emphasize some questions I have that I feel have been neglected.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I thought that a proposal to end extreme poverty and limit humans' impact on the environment would be seen as a valuable contribution that people would want to share with others and adopt as policy. But I have noticed that people who have received the proposal generally have little or no interest in sharing it with others.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I feel that I have been an utter failure in my efforts to communicate the proposal, the ideas.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The failure to communicate apparently starts with the sentence, the assertion, that "I have a cure for what ails the planet: a way to end abject poverty AND limit humans' impacts on the environment (the physical Earth and its inhabitants) so that they do not exceed what most people feel is acceptable". I believe that people generally are not aware of another one or two or three (or &lt;i&gt;any&lt;/i&gt;) other proposals that make such a claim. This sentence, this assertion may simply be too incredible to be taken seriously. I have to believe that, because in all seriousness, these are important goals. I don't want to assume that people are unwilling to apply some effort to make sure that the best way of achieving the very important goals of a sustainable and just society is being followed or pursued.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Am I wrong about the uniqueness of this proposal? Are you aware of more than one? What is your favorite proposal for achieving these two goals? (And what do you like about that particular proposal that makes it your favorite?)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If you believe this proposal does not merit a response, if it is not worth sharing with others, can you say what is lacking?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Are the goals, restated above, not sufficiently important?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Are there flaws in the proposal that make it unworkable? What are they?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Is there a better way to achieve these goals? What is it?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Is there something I am missing? Some other way to understand why people are willing to allow this proposal to languish?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;wondering,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;john&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;An eight-page paper, written at the invitation of the hosts of the International Environmental Association Conference: &lt;a href="http://gaiabrain.blogspot.com/2007/09/gaia-brain-integration-of-human-society.html"&gt;Gaia Brain theory: A Biological Model for Politics and Economics&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This paper was not published with the conference proceedings. The reviewer called it 'eminently clear and intelligible' and said that it brought new ideas to bear in solving environmental problems. But the proposal was also said to require changes in human nature. The hosts never explained what changes in human nature would be needed. I see it as a call for a change in the rules we live by. It is a call for changes in human &lt;i&gt;culture&lt;/i&gt;, not in human &lt;i&gt;nature&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/5962287001770458912-3661755318940078238?l=john-champagne.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://john-champagne.blogspot.com/feeds/3661755318940078238/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://john-champagne.blogspot.com/2012/02/fast-for-answers.html#comment-form' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5962287001770458912/posts/default/3661755318940078238'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5962287001770458912/posts/default/3661755318940078238'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://john-champagne.blogspot.com/2012/02/fast-for-answers.html' title='Fast for answers'/><author><name>John Champagne</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12991470302088404570</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-p4UUpQds6yM/Tk7HsK3hTxI/AAAAAAAAAH8/NI0KOTVoYys/s220/public_domain_astronomy_Full_Earth_NA.jpg'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5962287001770458912.post-617435254881967429</id><published>2011-08-20T01:24:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2011-08-20T01:24:54.115-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='maddening'/><title type='text'>An uncomfortable realization</title><content type='html'>Ethics or basic moral precepts are a kind of natural law (THE natural law) of social interaction.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Just as we MUST respect other natural laws to survive, we MUST respect basic moral precepts. (If we walk along a narrow path on the face of a cliff, we must respect the law of gravity or we will die.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Since we have no moral authority to initiate force or coercion against another peaceful person, we cannot delegate such authority to a government entity. Therefore, we MUST NOT, as a matter of moral principle, vote for a politician or support a policy that would do such a thing.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If we disregard this basic moral precept, our civilization will collapse. The time-lag between the error and the consequences may be greater than what we see in the case of other kinds of lapses of due regard for natural law, but the consequences are every bit as real. The consequences for a large-scale society take a longer amount of time to work themselves out. Larger entities in the cosmos generally change according to a longer time-frame, whether they be pendulums, organisms, societies, etc. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Since we have a right to share in deciding what limits to put on amounts of pollution or rates of taking of natural resources, we MUST use our political system to effectively define these limits. To fail to do so would be to relegate the assertion that we have this collective right to the bin of “What we give lip-service to without follow-through with effective action”. If we fail to use our instrument for collectively defining (limiting) our action to do that which we have a collective right (and duty) to do, then we are violating natural law. It is one thing to violate this law out of ignorance, (as has been the case during previous instances of civilization collapse, but it is entirely another to violate this law after we've become aware of its workings in the cosmos.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I see a moral imperative to seek out or create a marriage of libertarian and green. Whether this means voting Libertarian and Green, or it means communicating with candidates who identify as Democrat and Republican to influence their ideas, policies and orientation is, I think, merely incidental.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The moral imperative is baked into the way the cosmos works. Our civilization is well down the path toward collapse. I see no moral alternative for myself. I feel that I must take drastic action to communicate the urgency of the situation. My attempts to communicate in what could be called a normal way have thus far been an utter failure.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I have learned that sharing good ideas is enough to get people to say, “That's a good idea”, but it is not enough to make them want to share them with others. It is still the case that, after six years and more than 30 posts to the blog, it still gets zero or one or maybe two hits in a day, except when I actively share it on the internet somewhere other than here on fb. Then it might get five or ten or 15 hits in a day. That's not sufficient. I happen to think still that it is a profoundly important proposal. (People here may or may not have looked at it, but having seen the link a few times, it looks like nothing new, I suppose.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In all those years, those 30 or so articles have received a total of about a dozen comments. One every six months or so. So the very few people who have visited, seeing zero or maybe one comment on whatever article they are reading, may easily conclude that this is something that not many people are interested in. This proposal is being allowed to languish. I don't understand why that should be so.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Are you aware of ANY other proposal for how we might end extreme poverty AND limit humans' impact on the environment so that levels of pollution and rates of taking of natural resources could be kept within limits that most people would agree are acceptable?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If this is the ONLY such proposal that you are aware of, is it not also a proposal that merits some kind of response? I just can't get past the question, “Why should this be allowed to languish?”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Well, it shouldn't be allowed to languish, but it is. Now what? Well, I know what, but it will not do to say it. If I want people to sit up and take notice, I have to perform the most drastic symbolic act possible. Words are not enough.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Or tell me where I am wrong. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://gaiabrain.blogspot.com/2011/06/golden-rule-and-public-property-rights.html"&gt;Natural Law and the Golden Rule&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/5962287001770458912-617435254881967429?l=john-champagne.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://john-champagne.blogspot.com/feeds/617435254881967429/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://john-champagne.blogspot.com/2011/08/uncomfortable-realization.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5962287001770458912/posts/default/617435254881967429'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5962287001770458912/posts/default/617435254881967429'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://john-champagne.blogspot.com/2011/08/uncomfortable-realization.html' title='An uncomfortable realization'/><author><name>John Champagne</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12991470302088404570</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-p4UUpQds6yM/Tk7HsK3hTxI/AAAAAAAAAH8/NI0KOTVoYys/s220/public_domain_astronomy_Full_Earth_NA.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5962287001770458912.post-956312110323612953</id><published>2011-06-20T00:33:00.007-05:00</published><updated>2011-06-28T04:40:27.505-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='ignorance'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='ideology'/><title type='text'>Not a promising dialogue</title><content type='html'>A link to a Fox News story was offered by a friend, with this comment:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;b&gt;S.:&lt;/b&gt; &lt;br /&gt;If the facts don't support your agenda...make something up.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;-- &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/06/17/research-center-under-fire-for-adjusted-sea-level-data/"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Changing Tides: Research Center Under Fire for 'Adjusted' Sea-Level Data&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; ... &lt;i&gt;The University of Colorados Sea Level Research Group decided in May to add 0.3mm every year to its actual measurements of sea levels, sparking criticism from experts who called it an attempt to exaggerate the effects of global warming&lt;/i&gt;. -- &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;John:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I think it's Fox News and the Heartland Institute that are pushing an agenda. (What is your point in posting this? Do you really doubt that the earth is warming and SL is rising?) &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The &lt;a href="http://sealevel.colorado.edu/"&gt;graph&lt;/a&gt; I just looked at shows just over a one inch increase from about 1994 to about 2004. That's about ten times the amount of this refinement of their measurements of .3 mm per year. The 'expert' that Fox is quoting is a lawyer with Heartland, not a climate scientist, BTW. In that story, this lawyer, James M. Taylor, is quoted: 'We’ve seen only 7 inches of sea level rise in the past century and it hasn’t sped up this century', but earlier in the same story, this same lawyer says: 'Gatekeepers of our sea level data are manufacturing a fictitious sea level rise that is not occurring'. So you can't get a clear idea from this Fox News 'expert' whether SL rise is occurring or not.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Help me understand. Why do people want to rely on Fox as a source of news? Is it not obvious that they have an agenda that colors how they report?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What exactly do you think &lt;a href="http://sealevel.colorado.edu/"&gt;Colorado University&lt;/a&gt; is making up?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A cure for what ails the planet - (make the big problems MUCH smaller) - a sustainable and more just civilization: &lt;a href="http://gaiabrain.blogspot.com/2011/04/natural-law-requires-respect-of-public.html"&gt;http://gaiabrain.blogspot.com/2011/04/natural-law-requires-respect-of-public.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;S.:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Why are liberals do Fearful of FOX News?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;John:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Is it not obvious that FOX has an agenda that colors how they report?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What exactly do you think Colorado University is making up?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;S.:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So... Is global warming occurring on Mars?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;John:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Why do you ask?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;S.:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Is it happening on Mars?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;John:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I don't know. But since my actions have no bearing on whether Mars' climate might be changing, it seems a meaningless question, (Meaningless in the sense that it makes no difference in how I should choose to live my life. What does it mean? = what difference does it make?)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;S.:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What it means is that it's all about politics and power- not "saving" the Earth.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;John:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Through our collective actions (mostly habits of convenience and choice among the more affluent on the planet) we are inducing a rather abrupt change in climate. Plants and animals living at higher altitudes and latitudes may soon be unable to survive. This matters if we believe that a more diverse community of life embodies more beauty and goodness. It matters if we believe that other forms of life on Earth exist for their own sake and not merely as means to our ends.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;S.:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;How did man create Global warming on Mars?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;John:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There is a way to end extreme poverty in the world AND limit our impacts on the environment in an efficient and fair way that is consistent with democratic principles... &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://gaiabrain.blogspot.com/2011/04/natural-law-requires-respect-of-public.html"&gt;http://gaiabrain.blogspot.com/2011/04/natural-law-requires-respect-of-public.html&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;... and you choose to ask nonsense questions ... as a kind of distraction I might guess. But you can speak to your motives as to &lt;i&gt;why&lt;/i&gt; you do what you do better than I can.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;S.:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You can't answer because you realize it undermines the very foundation of your argument on global warming. Typical liberal tactics: if you cant win, then attack, smear, or denigrate the opponent personally. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And yes there is a way to end extreme poverty in the world within the framework of a Democratic Republic. It is called Economic Opportunity through Capitalism.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Well, I find this whole exchange rather disturbing. My friend and I used to have debates about creationism vs. evolution. (I haven't actually seen him in about 30 years.) I don't think either of us was swayed in our views, although I did learn a lot of biology as a result of my being challenged to defend a theory. Here I use the word 'theory' as meaning something more weighty and significant and predictive than a 'fact'. My friend would use the word in the sense of a conjecture, guess or hunch.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Ignorance is dangerous. We may not succeed in solving the challenges we face if we fail to understand the world we live in sufficiently well.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;One thing I can say for my friend: He is a kind person. He has a good heart.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://gaiabrain.blogspot.com/2011/06/golden-rule-and-public-property-rights.html"&gt;Natural law requires respect of public AND private property rights&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/climate-of-denial-20110622"&gt;Al Gore - Climate of Denial - Rolling Stone&lt;/a&gt; A very good article by Gore discussing the current effects of climate disruption, the political situation and challenges. Sadly, he makes no mention of economic externalities as such, equal ownership of natural resources or the ecological benefit of moving to a plant-based diet (relevant to the 'What to do?' question).&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/5962287001770458912-956312110323612953?l=john-champagne.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://john-champagne.blogspot.com/feeds/956312110323612953/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://john-champagne.blogspot.com/2011/06/not-promising-dialogue.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5962287001770458912/posts/default/956312110323612953'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5962287001770458912/posts/default/956312110323612953'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://john-champagne.blogspot.com/2011/06/not-promising-dialogue.html' title='Not a promising dialogue'/><author><name>John Champagne</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12991470302088404570</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-p4UUpQds6yM/Tk7HsK3hTxI/AAAAAAAAAH8/NI0KOTVoYys/s220/public_domain_astronomy_Full_Earth_NA.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5962287001770458912.post-4537544624808042952</id><published>2011-06-14T18:57:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2011-06-14T18:57:06.482-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='affordable housing'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='economic externalities'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Urban decay'/><title type='text'>A Remedy for Urban Blight</title><content type='html'>from &lt;a href="http://tpr.org/tpr/letters.html"&gt;Texas Public Radio letters&lt;/a&gt; - Mine was on December 23rd, 2010.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;What was not mentioned at the Homelessness Town Hall Meeting:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If we start talking about externalities [the hidden costs of economic activity] and start charging fees to those who produce adverse impacts on the environment, we may come to reflect on the fact that a property owner who allows vacant, disused, neglected structures to exist on his/her property is causing a negative impact on the surrounding neighborhood.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If there is a general view that there is too high a prevalence of derelict properties, to the detriment of the community at large, then a fee could be attached to property owners who hold those vacant and neglected properties.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This would give property owners incentive to improve derelict properties and make them available for rent or sale, which would increase the housing supply, thus reducing the cost of housing.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The existing housing stock would be utilized more efficiently.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The wealth of a society is subjectively experienced in relation to how efficiently it utilizes resources.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;To have widespread homelessness amidst vast numbers of vacant properties is a sign of a malignancy in a society. It is nonsensical, and reflects underlying injustice.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The fee on neglected properties might be quite modest yet effective, or it may in fact be unnecessary. There could be a general fee on impervious land cover (such as asphalt and buildings) as a way to minimize the adverse impact of this kind of land use. (Impervious land cover is a detriment to community well-being because it means that rain showers are no longer a blessing to humans and the larger community of life but are instead a hazard to the community. Rather than soaking into the ground, rainfall washes off rapidly, contributing to flash flood risks downstream.) A fee on impervious cover would give all property owners incentive to ensure that all properties are maintained in usable condition and able to produce income.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A general fee on impervious cover would also tend to bring down the cost of housing AND keep neglected properties to a minimum.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;These facts do not spontaneously emerge in the absence of a general discussion of economic externalities and ownership of natural resources.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Why is the topic of economic externalities not discussed on the public airwaves? I have asked my local NPR station and NPR's ombudsman many times but have received no reply.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Still wondering,...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;On Tue, Mar 8, 2011, Greg wrote:&lt;br /&gt;John, a few thoughts about the vacant property problem from my perspective:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The property owner normally pays substantial property taxes whether the property is vacant or not, so there is a logical consequence (penalty) for not making the property productive, though not necessarily in the proportion you mentioned. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; [The public policy question is, 'Is the incentive sufficient so that, in the view of most people, the consequences in the world match what the people want? Does the current tax regime result in a sufficiently low incidence of neglected properties?'.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If there is sufficient incentive so that there is not a higher prevalence of abandoned properties than what a random sample shows is consistent with the will of the people, (if the reality matches what the people want to see in this regard), then the existing incentive is adequate. If the reality does not match (if there are more neglected properties than what most people would want to see), then that is a sign that the incentives to upgrade ought to be strengthened.]&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Same with landlords who don't offer good or acceptable properties for rent at a fair price--they don't find renters and are generally economically penalized in proportion to their neglect or unfair pricing.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If the owner does not pay required taxes (or mortgage) for long enough, then normally the lender or county forecloses on the property and eventually sells it to someone more committed and able to make the property productive.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;[There is less transparency in our society than there might be. We don't know at a glance which properties are held privately and which are held by banks, and which are held by the county. (Maybe something like Google Maps could help change this.) Counties and banks would feel this incentive to make the properties they hold productive, too, if we were to adopt this alternative paradigm, so the question of whether an individual piece of property is held by private owner, bank or county is apparently not relevant to the question of whether this paradigm would produce a better society than what we have now.]&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;However, properties reach a stage when they are no longer economically worth rehabilitating and should be demolished (with usable elements recycled).  But as you know, the process often doesn't work, leading to urban blight and decay.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;[I'm offering a proposal that would reduce the problem of urban blight and decay, in case anyone is interested.]&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There are many programs that have and are being implemented with various success. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;[I think we should aim for (and this proposal would result in) the level of success that is in accord with the will of the people at large.]&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Some even involves strategic downsizing of an entire city, like Detroit is doing, and clearing some former blighted properties and making more community green space, parks, gardens, semi-rural farmland, playgrounds, etc.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/mar/09/detroit-looks-at-downsizing-to-save-city/&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It's a complicated and highly debatable matter to propose extra fees based on a largely subjective sentiments of other residents concerning ...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; [How much light pollution is too much is a debatable question, too, and highly subjective. That is no reason to not limit the level of light pollution to levels that most people would say are not excessive. So, although you make a true observation (that the question of how much blight is too much is a subjective question), I fail to see how exactly does it pertain to the question of whether we ought to adopt this alternative paradigm.]&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;.  Municipalities can and often do step in through their Code Compliance depts. to hire contractors to remedy the most egregious safety and health related violations and correctly place liens against violaters' properties.&lt;br /&gt;Greg&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;[Rather inefficient instruments, those, since the government agencies cannot and do not exercise this power except in the most extreme cases. I think it is 'sometimes', not 'often'.]&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;From: John Champagne&lt;br /&gt;To: Greg &lt;br /&gt;Sent: Tue, March 8, 2011 8:53:27 AM&lt;br /&gt;Subject: ps: something you do well would be done by more people&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If people who hold vacant property that is an eyesore and a perceived detriment to the community were made to pay a fee in proportion to how strongly the community wanted to decrease the prevalence of derelict and abandoned properties, more property owners would have incentive to rehabilitate properties to make them marketable. If fee proceeds go to the people at large, more people have money in their pockets, so they are more able to pay rent.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This policy of charging a fee to those who cause environmental impact, and sharing the proceeds with the people, would mean that people who don't currently have housing could find it (because they would have some money and rents would be lower, with the increased supply), and our neighborhoods would look better.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is just one way how this proposal would make the world better. (That &lt;i&gt;would&lt;/i&gt; be better, wouldn't it?)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;-&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://gaiabrain.blogspot.com"&gt;Gaia Brain blog&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://gaiabrain.blogspot.com/2010/02/what-do-we-need-to-know-that-news-media.html"&gt;What do we need to know that news media and universities are not telling us?&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://quantum-mechanical.blogspot.com/"&gt;Quantum mechanics of gaia brain&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/5962287001770458912-4537544624808042952?l=john-champagne.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://john-champagne.blogspot.com/feeds/4537544624808042952/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://john-champagne.blogspot.com/2011/06/remedy-for-urban-blight.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5962287001770458912/posts/default/4537544624808042952'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5962287001770458912/posts/default/4537544624808042952'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://john-champagne.blogspot.com/2011/06/remedy-for-urban-blight.html' title='A Remedy for Urban Blight'/><author><name>John Champagne</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12991470302088404570</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-p4UUpQds6yM/Tk7HsK3hTxI/AAAAAAAAAH8/NI0KOTVoYys/s220/public_domain_astronomy_Full_Earth_NA.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5962287001770458912.post-6052867117425719092</id><published>2011-06-07T03:41:00.001-05:00</published><updated>2011-06-13T08:41:10.869-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='ethics; ecology; environment; justice; slavery; philosophy'/><title type='text'>Diet choice is a moral choice</title><content type='html'>I went to a meeting of people who want to fight hunger here and throughout the world.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I want to see our religious communities--and all of us who strive to be moral beings--consider the moral arguments relating to what we eat. If we come together to address the problem of hunger, it seems fair to raise the point that a much more efficient use of natural resources will mean fewer hungry people. The limited amount of natural resources, (land surface, aquifer water and fossil fuel), available for planting, watering and fertilizing crops can feed more people when we eat the grains and other plants directly rather than process them through the bodies of animals such as cows, pigs, various kinds of birds, etc. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If we want to feed more people and we are coming up against limits on natural resources involved in food production, then we must be interested in finding the more efficient sources of nutrition.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In the large group I saw that night, no one said that they knew of a moral argument related to what we eat. I think that this question of whether we use our precious life-sustaining resources efficiently, (so that fewer or no people are left wanting basic nourishment, and so that wildlife and biodiversity are not needlessly destroyed), &lt;i&gt;is&lt;/i&gt; a moral question. We should choose a &lt;i&gt;more&lt;/i&gt; environmentally friendly diet-style over a &lt;i&gt;less&lt;/i&gt; environmentally friendly diet-style. Our times demand it. The fact is ecosystems can support large populations of plant-eaters, but only small populations of animal-eaters. We need to respond intelligently and morally to the reality of our situation.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Another moral argument related to what we eat would be that we exploit beings as things when we mechanize animal agriculture and intensify confinement systems: more crowding, more abuse, more fetid, miserable conditions, more pollution. We've demoted beings to the status of commodities. Treating a being as a thing is tantamount to slavery. It is wrong.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Do we want a culture of tolerance, mutual respect and non-violence? We can bring ourselves closer to creating this reality by developing a deeper respect for one another's person and psyche. We must recognize others as individuals who are not objects but who are subjects of their own lives. They are not means to our ends. They are ends in themselves.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We sometimes come to know members of other species as individuals. We see their unique personalities. We feel a concern for their interests and well-being. But at the same time, we prefer not to consider the fact that there are creatures held captive on our behalf in stifling, fetid, miserable, oppressive conditions that we do not want to know about. These animals are themselves unique individuals; subjects of their own lives--not objects to be used by us as means to our ends. We take their lives, after oppressing them interminably from the first day of their conscious existence … all so we can use the flesh of their bodies to trigger certain taste and texture sensations on our palate.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Where is the sense of outrage?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://gaiabrain.blogspot.com/2011/04/natural-law-requires-respect-of-public.html"&gt;A cure for what ails the planet: How to promote justice and ensure a sustainable society&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://gaiabrain.blogspot.com/2010/03/charity-is-no-answer-to-systemic.html"&gt;We have to respect moral principles to make society work. Neurons in a network seem to recognize this, too.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/5962287001770458912-6052867117425719092?l=john-champagne.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://john-champagne.blogspot.com/feeds/6052867117425719092/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://john-champagne.blogspot.com/2011/06/diet-choice-is-moral-choice.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5962287001770458912/posts/default/6052867117425719092'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5962287001770458912/posts/default/6052867117425719092'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://john-champagne.blogspot.com/2011/06/diet-choice-is-moral-choice.html' title='Diet choice is a moral choice'/><author><name>John Champagne</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12991470302088404570</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-p4UUpQds6yM/Tk7HsK3hTxI/AAAAAAAAAH8/NI0KOTVoYys/s220/public_domain_astronomy_Full_Earth_NA.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5962287001770458912.post-6927315261696965951</id><published>2011-03-27T09:51:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2011-03-27T09:51:09.665-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Letter to my local NPR station</title><content type='html'>Dear Ms. Grojean,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I have asked your news director and your program director why there should be no reporting on economic externalities. I received no answer.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It seems that the hidden costs of economic activity ought to be made visible. Economic externalities distort our economy and society so that more harm is produced by our economy than what would be the case if all costs, (including environmenntal impact costs), were to be reflected in prices.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We must be apprised of the situation, made aware of the existence of this systemic defect called externalities, and its consequences, so that we will be able and willing to remedy it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The lack of any political will to start taking account of externalities can be explained by the absence of any public discourse on the topic. If we talked about the various ways of taking account of externalities and compared them—which are more efficient, which are more fair, and which combine efficient and fair—we would be &lt;i&gt;empowered to choose&lt;/i&gt; the more efficient and fair option.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Serious problems in the world would be solved.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If you know why this topic should not be discussed on the broadcast outlets that proclaim a determination to provide the people with vital information, please tell me.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I know that, if I can get more people to join me in asking this question, your station management will be more interested in answering it, or in challenging the premise by questioning whether this topic really should be omitted from the public discourse and news reporting.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If I can get your major funders to join in asking this question, then all the more likely that you will respond in some fashion. I hesitate in asking your funders to join in asking the question, though, because of the law of unintended consequences. Some of your funders may decide that it is &lt;i&gt;because&lt;/i&gt; they are funders that they are being bothered by my solicitation of their involvement. To reduce complications in their life or business, they may choose to stop funding the station rather than start writing letters to you or start explaining to members of the public why we should think of their support of a neglectful news agency as a benefit to the community. That would be an unintended and I think unfortunate consequence of this approach.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;My hope would be that you would reflect on whether neglect of this topic has in fact been a disservice to the community up to now, and on what you might do as a public service entity to remedy the situation, and that you would then take action to effect the remedy.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I can't imagine a clear and intelligible answer to this question of why economic externalities should not be mentioned or discussed in most of (rather than none of) the stories where their &lt;i&gt;consequences&lt;/i&gt; are discussed, but if you have one and if you will share it with me, (or if you will start remedying this systematic neglect), I will certainly renew my membership.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Sincerely,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;John Champagne&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;-- &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.npr.org/templates/community/persona.php?uid=4511442"&gt;Links to my latest comments to NPR news stories and blogs&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://gaiabrain.blogspot.com"&gt;Gaia Brain blog&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/5962287001770458912-6927315261696965951?l=john-champagne.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://john-champagne.blogspot.com/feeds/6927315261696965951/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://john-champagne.blogspot.com/2011/03/letter-to-my-local-npr-station.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5962287001770458912/posts/default/6927315261696965951'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5962287001770458912/posts/default/6927315261696965951'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://john-champagne.blogspot.com/2011/03/letter-to-my-local-npr-station.html' title='Letter to my local NPR station'/><author><name>John Champagne</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12991470302088404570</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-p4UUpQds6yM/Tk7HsK3hTxI/AAAAAAAAAH8/NI0KOTVoYys/s220/public_domain_astronomy_Full_Earth_NA.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5962287001770458912.post-9205915007179935683</id><published>2010-01-30T15:40:00.001-06:00</published><updated>2011-09-01T17:28:14.744-05:00</updated><title type='text'>NPR: No discussion of public property rights here</title><content type='html'>I posted a comment in three segments, with the intent of relating the concept of public property rights to the problem of obesity, in response to a story about &lt;a href="http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2010/01/michelle_obama_launches_person.html"&gt;Michelle Obama's effort to combat childhood obesity&lt;/a&gt;. http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2010/01/michelle_obama_launches_person.html &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;One of the segments of my comment was deleted for violating the Discussion Rules, (which include "we have the right... to ... delete... any content"). This would not be so disturbing were it possible to find some discussion of the concept of public property rights somewhere on the public airwaves or on npr.org  A respect of public property rights, (equal ownership of natural resource wealth and effective accounting for economic externalities), would mean an end to extreme poverty in the world AND an efficient and fair way to limit our environmental impacts, (including greenhouse gas emissions). Why no discussion of public property rights on NPR?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If we start to respect public property rights, then all the world's people will own the decision about how much of the earth's surface ought to be devoted to the support of diverse ecosystems, as opposed to that devoted to other uses, such as monoculture or paving, (assuming that biodiversity is recognized by most people as a value worth preserving). &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We will respect public property rights if we are truly committed to basic moral principles. Moral principles are the basis of our concepts of human rights, including private property rights. Public property rights refers to the idea that we all own the air and water and other natural resources. We have a right to use them and to stop others from messing them up. If meadows and forests are of value to human beings and the larger community of life on earth, then destruction of these diverse ecosystems should be limited by rational public policy.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;One way to limit the extent of paving or of other human impacts that adversely affect environmental quality would be to charge a fee to those who cause the adverse impact. We could use a random-sample survey as a basic instrument to discern what is the average opinion on questions regarding appropriate limits to various kinds of environmental impacts. If most people felt that monoculture and other more severe impacts ought to be limited to, say, 14 percent of the Earth's surface, then permits to cause such impacts could be offered in a free market auction. (In reality, some people will hold the view that 15 percent is an appropriate limit, while others may say 12 percent is permissible. There will be a number that reflects the mean or average opinion. If we are committed to democratic principles, we will strive to create a public policy that brings about a reality that matches what the largest number of people say is the best balance of possible uses of the earth's surface. (I am using the word 'uses' in a broad sense here. Leaving some portion of the landscape undisturbed by humans for the benefit of other inhabitants of the planet could be a normal consequence of the political process within a public property rights paradigm.))&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If the opinion of the people is that limiting monoculture and promoting a healthy ecosystem serves the public interest, and if we determine to create public policy to reflect this belief, we might also decide that monoculture devoted to production of sugar cane or corn syrup or tobacco includes these environmental impacts AND that such land use involves other adverse impacts on society.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We could attach a HIGHER fee to monoculture that supports production of things that most people feel are harming  the human community, so that the overall abundance of these problematic commodities does not exceed what most people feel is acceptable. The mix of foods in the marketplace could come to match what most nutritionists and most people agree is a healthy balance.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;BTW, a pollution fee would mean that walking and bicycling would become more attractive choices for getting around our cities and neighborhoods. A pollution fee is also the most efficient and fair way to limit greenhouse gases. A pollution fee is the obvious policy of choice within a public property rights paradigm. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The proceeds of all fees collected as compensation for natural resources taken or environmental degradation caused should be shared equally among all the worlds people. This would mean an end to grinding poverty across the globe. &lt;a href="http://gaiabrain.blogspot.com"&gt;http://gaiabrain.blogspot.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/5962287001770458912-9205915007179935683?l=john-champagne.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://john-champagne.blogspot.com/feeds/9205915007179935683/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://john-champagne.blogspot.com/2010/01/npr-no-discussion-of-public-property.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5962287001770458912/posts/default/9205915007179935683'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5962287001770458912/posts/default/9205915007179935683'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://john-champagne.blogspot.com/2010/01/npr-no-discussion-of-public-property.html' title='NPR: No discussion of public property rights here'/><author><name>John Champagne</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12991470302088404570</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-p4UUpQds6yM/Tk7HsK3hTxI/AAAAAAAAAH8/NI0KOTVoYys/s220/public_domain_astronomy_Full_Earth_NA.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5962287001770458912.post-5845341003686993809</id><published>2009-11-29T19:14:00.002-06:00</published><updated>2009-11-29T19:16:58.125-06:00</updated><title type='text'>Attempt at a dialogue</title><content type='html'>Tom,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If we SAY we are for democracy, then object to the suggestion that the people at large should have the power and responsibility to set overall limits on pollution and other environmental impacts, arguing that scientists should decide for us, aren't we acting more like a technocrat than a democrat?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Do you think we have a system now that ensures overall levels of pollution and rates of taking of natural resources are set by scientists operating in the public interest? I understand that this is the system that you want.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It seems to me that, on the contrary, what we have now is more tailored to the interests of industry than to sound, dispassionate science.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You never responded when I asked whether the people's preference should hold sway if popular opinion pointed to a more strict limit on pollution levels and other environmental impacts than what established scientific opinion called for. Your objection seemed based on a fear that the people at large, being non-experts and generally not educated about the particulars, would make bad judgements about acceptable levels of pollution and rates of taking of resources.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If a random-sample survey were to show that the people at large actually supported more strict limits on environmental impacts, would you be willing to reconsider your objection to the random-sample survey as an instrument of policy?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;wondering,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;john&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/5962287001770458912-5845341003686993809?l=john-champagne.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://john-champagne.blogspot.com/feeds/5845341003686993809/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://john-champagne.blogspot.com/2009/11/attempt-at-dialogue.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5962287001770458912/posts/default/5845341003686993809'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5962287001770458912/posts/default/5845341003686993809'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://john-champagne.blogspot.com/2009/11/attempt-at-dialogue.html' title='Attempt at a dialogue'/><author><name>John Champagne</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12991470302088404570</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-p4UUpQds6yM/Tk7HsK3hTxI/AAAAAAAAAH8/NI0KOTVoYys/s220/public_domain_astronomy_Full_Earth_NA.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5962287001770458912.post-4558256455741109409</id><published>2009-04-25T16:45:00.004-05:00</published><updated>2011-03-07T02:33:42.986-06:00</updated><title type='text'></title><content type='html'>In the 44 months since the first post to this &lt;a href="http://gaiabrain.blogspot.com"&gt;blog&lt;/a&gt;, there have been about four or five comments.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If you agree that a society that respects public AND private property rights could mean an end to grinding poverty in the world and bring human impacts on the environment into line with what most people feel is acceptable, then I hope you will put a comment to voice your support of the idea. You could tell how you can help to spread the idea. Or tell how this paradigm shift might help to alleviate a particular problem.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If you see that this proposal, &lt;strong&gt;(charge a fee to polluters and those who take natural resources - give the proceeds to the people)&lt;/strong&gt;, could not work because it contains serious flaws or invalid assumptions, please share your critique in a comment.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;When Kevin Hickey and Demetri Kantarelis said that they would not publish this proposal to a wider audience as part of the Proceedings of the Interdisciplinary Environmental Association conference, (after inviting me to share the proposal at the conference), they did not explain their objection other than to say that this paradigm shift would require "changes in human nature".&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(The reviewer of &lt;a href="http://gaiabrain.blogspot.com/2007/09/gaia-brain-integration-of-human-society.html"&gt;the paper&lt;/a&gt; did say that the paper was a "&lt;a href="http://www.geocities.com/gaiabrainearths/critique.html"&gt;radical proposal&lt;/a&gt;" with "leftist tendencies", but they knew that when they invited me to attend and present, so it hardly seems fair that they would reject it for publication on those grounds.) &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Only if someone other than the author of the proposal asks them to explain will they know that anyone other than the author actually cares.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kevin Hickey (khickey@assumption.edu)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Demetri Kantarelis (dkantar@assumption.edu)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(If you want to communicate to those professors, I hope you will cc: or bcc: to me, or cut and paste to my comments section. Thanks!)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;John&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;P.S.: Is it a fair assumption that, if no one objects when professors say "We won't publish this", that the goals that might be achieved are not really that important, or that the proposal has fatal flaws? If you see flaws, please tell me. If the goals are important, in your mind, please speak up. Thank you.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/5962287001770458912-4558256455741109409?l=john-champagne.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://john-champagne.blogspot.com/feeds/4558256455741109409/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://john-champagne.blogspot.com/2009/04/in-44-months-since-first-post-to-this.html#comment-form' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5962287001770458912/posts/default/4558256455741109409'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5962287001770458912/posts/default/4558256455741109409'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://john-champagne.blogspot.com/2009/04/in-44-months-since-first-post-to-this.html' title=''/><author><name>John Champagne</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12991470302088404570</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-p4UUpQds6yM/Tk7HsK3hTxI/AAAAAAAAAH8/NI0KOTVoYys/s220/public_domain_astronomy_Full_Earth_NA.jpg'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5962287001770458912.post-7055593010723011135</id><published>2007-08-26T14:02:00.002-05:00</published><updated>2010-02-01T16:04:19.563-06:00</updated><title type='text'>To build a sustainable and  just civilization...</title><content type='html'>&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href="http://civilization-ethics.blogspot.com/"&gt;The Golden Rule applies&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It is not possible, I believe, to create a sustainable civilization wherein the citizens neglect basic philosophical principles. The most fundamental moral principle, the Golden Rule, common to all religious traditions, requires that we limit our actions so that we do not produce effects on others that we would not want for ourselves.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We violate this principle when we vote for and give allegiance to governments and politicians that undertake to regulate private behavior.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The proper function of government is to regulate &lt;em&gt;public&lt;/em&gt; behavior. Any action that is private, that is not open to public view and that does not impose effects on any individual against their will is not a legitimate target for government regulation.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Attempts to regulate private behavior not only &lt;a href="http://www.reocities.com/gaiabrainearths/constitution.html"&gt;infringe on basic civil and human rights&lt;/a&gt;, they also inevitably draw resources and attention away from the legitimate function of government. We are less able to regulate public behavior effectively and appropriately when we are so distracted.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We need to consider the Golden Rule when we go into the voting booth and when we communicate our interests and concerns with our elected representatives.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A political path that respects this most fundamental moral principle might seek a marriage of libertarian and green political traditions. Not "Republican or Democrat", but "Libertarian AND Green", if we wish to embody in our political life and institutions the central tenant of our oldest philosophical traditions.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.reocities.com/gaiabrainearths/progress.html"&gt;A Capitalism-Communism Synthesis: democratic ownership and free market management of natural resources&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.reocities.com/gaiabrainearths/cronkite.html"&gt;Cronkite for President&lt;/a&gt; - Can we find someone, (someone over 35 years old), who we could most all agree on for our next President?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://john-champagne.blogspot.com/"&gt;John Champagne&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://gaiabrain.blogspot.com/"&gt;The &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_2"&gt;Gaia&lt;/span&gt; Brain paradigm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.reocities.com/gaiabrainearths/cronkite.html"&gt;Walter Cronkite for President&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.reocities.com/gaiabrainearths/gaia.html"&gt;Gaia Brain and the History of Life&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~sai/Bohm.html"&gt;David Bohm&lt;/a&gt; said that everything in the universe is connected. He described an implicate order and an explicate order. An experiment illustrates the distinction: Place a clear plastic cylinder inside a slightly larger clear plastic cylinder, then fill the space between them with glycerin. Inject a line of ink into that glycerin, then slowly turn the inner cylinder so that the ink is smeared. Three turns will cause the ink to completely disappear. But the ink is not mixed up randomly in the glycerin. There is still an implicate order. There is still order in the relationship of the molecules to one another in space, but the order is not visible. Turn the cylinder back three turns, the line of ink re-appears. The order is made explicate again.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;When we buy a product that has resource user-fees incorporated in the price, implicite in the price of the product is the expressed wishes of all the world's people about what limits should be placed on the use of natural resources. Explicit in the price is the economic value of all the natural resources and the human effort that went into the production of that product.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;When we survey people to see what their views are on appropriate levels of resource use, implicate in their responses will be relative prices for various goods and services in the market. If most people are saying explicitly that carbon dioxide emissions ought to decrease, implicit in these expressions will be higher prices for fuel, and a decreased prevalance of high-powered cars, single-occupant cars, and long commutes, to name a few.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The information explicate in the price of a particular product or service is the economic value of the resources that went into its production. Implicate in the price of that same product or service is the expressed wishes of all the world's people about acceptable levels of resource use for all the raw materials that went into its production.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Bohm"&gt;more on David Bohm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Post to the 'Global Brain' list:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I think this group could discuss how we might actually bring about a world that has most people expressing their opinion about what are appropriate levels of use of pubilc resources, based on what they see in their envvironment and what they hear from other neurons like themselves, (or sort-of like themselves, but with different experiences and character types). These expressions of opinion about what are appropriate limits on human transformation of the earth would directly affect the actions that humans perform that impact the earth and affect the human community, just as signals from neurons in biological brains affect the behavior of other neurons and conditions in the larger organism.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If we believe in democratic principles and equal ownership of natural resources, then we will agree that the people ought to be making or endorsing decisions about what are appropriate limits on the use of the Commons, i.e., putting of pollution, and taking or deminishing resources. And the people ought to each receive a monetary payment equal to their share of the value of natural resources taken by corporate interests for the purpose of economic gain.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In an economic system, information is carried by money. To convey information and proper incentives to economic actors regarding human demands on the environment, you must assess an economic measure to a quantity, (ie, the amount of resource that goes into making an economic good), and include that in the price paid in the market. A free market auction of natural resource user-permits would cause those resouurces that the people wish to conserve to cost more, to cost what society represents as the actual cost, the opportunity cost of using a limited resource for one particular use as opposed to another.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Who else on this list shares the view that we ought to be about discussing potential political-economic-social systems that reflect the interconnectedness of environment--information flow--neuron--action--freedom--constraint? How might a fully functioning healthy global brain manifest itself in political and economic terms? Would such a system allow levels of pollution and rates of resource extraction to exceed what most neurons consider acceptable? I think not. Do we currently have such a system, one not in accord with what the people would choose? I think so. We have elements of, hints of a global brain, but we have yet to acheive full functionality of all its essential parts. We seem to be acting more like cancer cells of earth than brain cells, at least in some respects.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Posted by John Champagne&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/5962287001770458912-7055593010723011135?l=john-champagne.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://john-champagne.blogspot.com/feeds/7055593010723011135/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://john-champagne.blogspot.com/2007/08/golden-rule-applies.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5962287001770458912/posts/default/7055593010723011135'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5962287001770458912/posts/default/7055593010723011135'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://john-champagne.blogspot.com/2007/08/golden-rule-applies.html' title='To build a sustainable and  just civilization...'/><author><name>John Champagne</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12991470302088404570</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-p4UUpQds6yM/Tk7HsK3hTxI/AAAAAAAAAH8/NI0KOTVoYys/s220/public_domain_astronomy_Full_Earth_NA.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry></feed>
